and boehner could not get the republicans in congress to come to the table. >> he put some things on the table because -- how much has is he prepared to really take on spending? medicare and medicaid, what is his plan, what's the strategy there? >> a lot of this stuff was on the table. your guys walked away. >> you didn't put anything on the table in that area? that's a rhetorical set-up for the republicans where they fall into the same old trap -- >> where's the plan? the president put a plan on the table. >> what was the plan on social security? articulate his plan that he walked away from. you beat up paul ryan's budget because what it did in trying to address, begin the conversation on social security and medicare. you ripped him a new one on that and yet the president still hasn't put anything on the table. so where is your -- >> most americans oppose it. >> karen -- this is the problem. we get the, oh, you guys have a bad plan. but we don't have that one. >> that's not true. >> you have a bad budget but we don't have one. you want to cut spending but you don't want to raise tax